Families descended from the 448’s include those who passed through Surry and Johnston Counties, NC, Greenville, SC and Hall and Wilkes Counties, GA. Most were of the Baptist religion. Many entered land lotteries and several won. They tended to spell their surname Hide, occasionally Hede, and generally after about 1840, Hyde.
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Perry Dalton Hyde (1858-1926) and wife Sara Cordelia (in other documents Cordelia Sara) Adams (1868-1930) are buried together at Hardin Cemetery, Pine Bluff, Jefferson County, AR. Perry first appears on the 1870 census here, in the Houston Post Office of Winston, AL. You’ll need a free account on FamilySearch to view the link: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6D9H-P11?i=20&cc=1438024&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMH27-2Y3
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In the 1870 census, Perry is part of the household of William Henry Hyde (b circa 1828, d 1913), farmer and attorney at law, and his wife Mary Malissa Dodd (1834- ). Note that Parthena Hyde (1841- ) is a sister or sister-in-law, not a child, of William Henry, and she has property of her own valued at $50, significant for the time. Perry is aged 12 and it’s possible that Perry is her son, although he could have come from the family of any of William Henry’s numerous relatives. William and Malissa’s children are Bynum age 10, John A age 5 and Elbert age 2. Parthena and William Henry were both born in GA, everyone else in AL. Alabama was created in 1819 from a part of Georgia ceded to the government in 1802. Civil War-era Winston County was called the “Free State of Winston” because most were pro-Union and opposed to secession. They formed militias to defend themselves from Confederates during the Civil War. Both William Henry and his brother Whitten Holland Hyde fought as privates in the cavalry on the Union side in the war, mustering at Decatur, AL.
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Let’s jump back ten years, to the 1860 census, William Henry and Malissa appear in the same place in Winston with their children Eli V age 7, Mary age 5, Adolphus age 3, and Bynum age 2. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GYBJ-9MKD?i=1&cc=1473181&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQK1B-HX5M So a problem presents itself. With the exception of Bynum (age two in 1860, age ten in 1870, this family does tend to round off numbers by a few years), all of the children in the 1860 census were no longer part of the household by 1870. What we see in 1860 is that Perry and Parthena are not members of William and Malissa’s household, indicating that they are part of the extended family. Some of William and Malissa’s older children may be with extended family by 1870, either as farm hands or caregivers. I find no further record of Adolphus after 1866. I did not look into whether Eli V is the same Ely/Elvi Hyde who appears later in Marshall County, AL. I don’t know what happened to Mary either, as I didn’t want to confuse her with the other Mary Hydes in Winston.
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Parthena Hyde born 1841 in GA does not appear in any other records. She may have married or passed away after 1870, and it’s also possible that some of the information in the census is incorrect, so possibly her name or birthdate are off in some way. I’m not yet able to see how she connects to William Henry Hyde, so let’s take a look at the larger family. There is a Marthena Hyde with William Sr in the 1860 Winston census, but she was born 1835. That age is approximately correct for her to be F Hide in the 1850 Hall County GA census (born circa 1833) in William Sr and Sarah’s household, so there’s a possibility that these are all the same person and that she is F Marthena or F Parthena Hyde. It’s easy to mishear F, P, M and B sounds.
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Is William Henry Hyde part of the 448’s? There’s a marriage record in Hall County, GA for a William Hyde and Amanda Dodd 19 Nov 1859, and this is the right extended family – on both sides – but not the right couple. The 1860 census shows us that William and Malissa were married around 1853, in Alabama. William Henry probably arrived in Alabama some time after 1850, as there are no Hide/Hyde/Hedes in the 1850 census for Hancock County. William Henry’s legal career is summed up in a letter of recommendation printed in the Commercial Law Register compiled by S.F Kneeland, 1873 edition, pg 16: https://books.google.com/books?id=_3xQAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA16&lpg=PA16&dq=%22william+h.hyde%22+%22attorney+at+law%22+%22alabama%22&source=bl&ots=P1EzDdp0Zv&sig=ACfU3U20S0nlRoIGfsaNx88l8_4_FTBG1A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiG0Znl7aj4AhVzg3IEHdWOBbUQ6AF6BAgkEAM#v=onepage&q=%22william%20h.hyde%22%20%22attorney%20at%20law%22%20%22alabama%22&f=false
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Mary “Polly” Malissa Dodd is said to be the daughter of Mikel/Michael Dodd (born circa 1811, GA) and Mary Wright (born circa 1817, SC). She appears in the 1850 census with her family in Hancock County, AL https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MH5M-KPS After 1858, Hancock County was renamed Winston County, AL, which places her very close to the lot that she and William Hyde settled on. Something to keep in mind is that there was no shortage of Dodd surnames in the area at that time. For example, one of William’s legal cases in 1869 involved helping widow Eliza Spain/Spane obtain a pension for her husband’s service in the Civil War, and two of the witnesses were Carroll Dodd and William Dodd Jr. of Larissa, Winston, AL http://files.usgwarchives.net/al/winston/military/civilwar/pensions/mt77ucoh1stre.txt
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We see William Dodd and Carrel Dodd a few years earlier in the 1866 Winston County Alabama census, township 11 range 10, living close to a few Barton families as well as J. D. Hyde. This is Jesse Daniel Hyde, who had three boys under age 10, himself 40-50, two girls under 10, 3 girls 10-20, and his wife, Sarah Jerome Barton age 30-40. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9GTP-9TN1?i=488&cc=1915987 (pg 489 of 523) Jesse Daniel is one of the 448’s. He and William Henry appear together on one of the land records in Winston County.
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This page https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Land_Patent_Search#:~:text=Value%20of%20Land%20Records,-Land%20records%20were&text=In%20some%20cases%20the%20patent,obtain%20land%20patent%20application%20papers is an excellent overview of how to use BLM-GLO records. Alabama is one of the states where you can bring your smart phone into the state archives, look up the record you want here https://glorecords.blm.gov/results/default.aspx?searchCriteria=type=patent|st=AL|cty=|ln=hyde|sp=true|sw=true|sadv=false and request the application file, which may or may not contain genealogical information. (Don’t forget to also search under “Hide”)
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W.H..Hyde appears in the 1866 Winston, Alabama state census, township 9 range 5: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GGTP-9BNZ?cc=1915987&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AV6PL-H3T (pg 485 of 523) It shows no sons, one man over age 20, one girl under 10, two girls 10-20, and one woman over 20. Wait a minute, this can’t be the same W.H. Hyde! Additional records show that this is Whitten/Whitton Holland Hyde and his wife. He sometimes appears in records as Holland Whitten Hyde. He was b 1832, married Nancy Miller in Hall County GA 17 July 1853 and married Mary A Hood in AL sometime between 1860-1870. In a separate home next door is Whitten’s father, “W. Hyde” (William Hyde Sr) showing two men over 20, two girls under ten, one woman over 20. There were no further age categories in the state census than “over 20”.
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A few pages away in 1866 Winston, https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GGTP-9BZ1?i=486&cc=1915987 (pg 487 of 523) Township 10, Range 9, we see “Eliza Spane” and another W.H. Hyde – this is William Henry Hyde – with four boys under 10, himself over 20, one girl 10-20 and Malissa over 20. Now if Eli was 7 in 1860, he’d be 13 in 1866 so we can assume that if the ages are correct, he’s no longer part of the household. Adolphus is age 9, Bynum age 2, and John A is around age 1. It stands to reason that the fourth boy might be Perry Dalton, age 8. The thing to keep in mind is that the census ages are usually a few years off for this family, so it could be Eli or Perry, it’s not clear. The girl 10-20 is Mary, age 11. Parthena is not part of the household at this time.
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Since there were no Hide./Hede/Hydes in Hancock (later Winston) County in 1850, we look at birthplace Georgia. The census for District 38, Hall County GA has only initials, but with additional 448 family data we see a young William Henry Hide, his older brother Whitton Holland Hide, sister “F” possibly F. Marthena, their father William Hide and his wife, Sarah. This census appears to be only available at MyHeritage or Ancestry.com, both are paid sites. Here’s one link viewable by subscription, but Ancestry links are temporary and this will stop working very soon (in every link I mention what/when/where details so information can be recovered when links get old): https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/18713739:8054_phsrc=sSB359&_phstart=successSource&gsln=hide&ml_rpos=29&queryId=d2bb1c89e6a8624b46d807c8d9045a89
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Who was their father, William Hyde Sr? Different censuses show born between 1800-1804. Wife is S Hide born circa 1805. The 1860 census shows her name is Sarah, unsourced trees suggest her name was Sarah Reynolds, but no proof. William Hide Sr appears on the 1850 Hall County GA census District 38 on pages 160-161. There is no “Reynolds” nearby, but on page 156-157 we see SS Renals and Balas Renals, the latter a phonetic spelling of Bayliss Reynolds. William Cagle, who purchased land in Winston AL with this group, appears on page 158. G.W. Redmon appears on page 159, he is very likely a relative of Rosetta Redman/Redmon/Redmond who married David Hide Jr in Hall County on 12 Oct 1828.
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1840 census (This proves that William Hide/Hyde of Autagua and Sumter AL, was not the son of David Hide of Hall County, GA. Also on the Confederate side in the Civil War.) We see them all together in Hall County, District 505. David Sr, David Jr, William Sr and “Michazer”/Micajah Hide. https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/8057/images/4411223_00375?pId=1750402 Subscription only, expires, etc. William has four boys under 5, two boys 5-9, himself 30-39, two girls 5-9, two girls 10-14, wife S 30-39. The four families are living so close together it’s not clear to me that all these children belong to William and his wife. Sometimes what I’ve seen before in extended families, is that the young children of several families are together with a caregiver and/or teacher so older children and adults can work on the farm. Note that David Hide Sr is between 70-80 years old, so born between 1760-1770. Remember that David Hide came from NC but is not related to the David Hide/Hyde of Northampton County, NC, of the pirate line.
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The 1830 Hall County census for William Hide shows him living next to David Hyde Sr, age 60-70. Near them is “Micager” Micajah Hide. Both 448’s. William and his wife are aged 20-29, consistent with the 1840 and 1850 censuses. The 1820 Hall County census shows David Hide and no other Hide/Hyde families. Hall County GA was created in Dec 1819. Before then, in what was Franklin County, GA, David Hide Sr is the first to appear on the tax lists in 1805. He was joined in 1807 by his brother, George Jr and in 1818 by his (David’s) eldest son, Micajah. Franklin County was huge at that time. In its original form, Franklin County included all of the territory now in Banks, Barrow, Clarke, Jackson, Oconee, and Stephens counties, and parts of the modern-day Gwinnett, Hall, Hart, and Madison counties, as well as three counties that are now part of South Carolina. We know that David Sr’s father was George Hide born circa 1734, and he’s the earliest Hide/Hyde that we’ve identified in this line, although it looks as though he came with at least one other brother, possibly Charles Sr and/or Stephen (of Surry, not Anson, County, NC), although we haven’t confirmed their relationship to George as the records so far don’t give us much in the way of their ages. George is confirmed in Johnston County in the 1750’s and appears with Stephen and others in Surry through most of the 1780’s. He died in Wilkes County, GA.
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Wilkes Co, GA Deed book GG, 1790-1793, page 173 George Hyde of Wilkes Co., for divers good causes, to my 5 children: David, George, Betty, Pleasant, and Winney, all my stock…….etc signed 29 July 1790 George (X) Hyde Wit: Pat Cunningham, Lewis C. D.
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Robin Sterling compiled a book, Winston County, Alabama Files from the Southern Claims Commission in 2013. It’s available from www.lulu.com and partially online here https://www.google.com/books/edition/Winston_County_Alabama_Files_From_The_So/KN-fBQAAQBAJ?hl=en The families of Dodd, Barton, and McNutt are tied together with the Hydes of Thorn Hill, Marion County AL and Jesse Daniel Hyde and Ansel Madison Hyde of Larissa, Winston County, AL. Perry D Hyde, Oak Bynum Hyde, and the same members of the Dodd family are mentioned in passing in a few of the cases. There’s not much information beyond that, but may be of interest to the families involved.
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The extended Hide/Hyde family that moved from Hall County GA to Alabama is best summed up by the 1867 voter registration log. Go to this link https://archives.alabama.gov/voterreg/ and click the Search button in the middle of the page. Type in “Hyde” as a last name with no additional information. What will come up is a list of several names. All the Hydes I’m about to mention are part of the same extended family, however, not all of them were sons of David Hide born between 1770-1780. David had at least one brother and that has to be a post for another time. The answers given below are meant as a snapshot of 1867 and not meant to suggest that any later Hydes living in these counties are part of the same family, but as of 1867 all the Hydes in these counties were related to one another:
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1. Fayette County. All the Fayette County Hydes of Holly Springs – Hiram, Jeremiah C, William A and “Noah F”, who is actually Noel Francis Hyde. Noel Francis was named after great uncle, or cousin a few times removed – Noel Hide (bc 1776) husband of Elizabeth Black and son of Stephen Hyde and Martha “Mollie” Waddle of Surry NC. Noel bc 1776 and his children with Elizabeth Black are named in the will of Jacob Black. Hiram Hide/Hyde is not among them and we’re still working on where he fits, but *not* likely to be a son of Noel bc 1776 even though he’s often placed there online. Noel had a brother who died young, and Hiram himself may have had a brother named Thomas, who married Hiram’s wife’s sister. Hiram’s ancestry requires further research. Noel bc 1776 also had a brother Jeremiah Hide who married a Black sister and is mentioned in Jacob Black’s will. Trying to keep things general so it’s not too confusing, but the 448’s are one of the largest lines in the US.
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2. Marion County. The family of Ancil/Ansel Madison Hyde of Thorn Hill. There’s conflicting information about Ansel Madison bc 1831. More needs to be done on this line. We do know that he was named after the first Ansel/Ancil Hide born around 1770 (there’s a very old writeup on the first Ansel here that needs quite a bit of updating: https://www.hydegenealogy.com/?page_id=330 “Charles Hyde of England” was the name Ansel filled in on one of his military records, but that’s problematic and merits a separate discussion).
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3. Winston County. Jesse Daniel Hyde may possibly have been named for his great uncle or cousin a few times removed, Jesse Hide, born in Johnston County, NC in 1757 according to his Revolutionary War pension request. Jesse b 1757’s request was eventually denied as he hadn’t served long enough, but the locations he provides of where his family moved over the years have been helpful in sorting this group out. Jesse Daniel Hyde bc 1825 interacted with both William Henry Hyde and the Fayette County Hydes in court records. Jesse D is said to be the son of Jeremiah bc 1797 and the grandson of David Hide Sr. b 1768.
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William H Hyde moved to Merry Green Township, Grant County, AR, where he and his family appear in the 1880 census. Staying with them are his nieces and a nephew, listed as the “McDrakes” but possibly the name is just Drake or Duke. It would be great to know more. Please feel free to suggest corrections, ask questions or provide additional information in the comments.
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William H Hyde offers for carrying the mails (click “read free of charge”) United States Congressional Serial Set, 1879, page 951 https://books.google.com/books?id=3VtHAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA951&lpg=PA951&dq=grant+county,+arkansas+william+h+hyde&source=bl&ots=lWqe87yuSv&sig=ACfU3U2l58og6aRhLLzJydVSJoVUrvy7ig&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiio6z-wqn4AhUPrHIEHWzkAzAQ6AF6BAg0EAM#v=onepage&q=grant%20county%2C%20arkansas%20william%20h%20hyde&f=false